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Wildfires

I have watch duty and get notifications. Fires are going to be a horrible situation because there will be no stopping them without huge resources that will not be available. Fires in the cities will consume the entire area. Fires across Prairie's will go unbated. Land we had looked at last summer is now cinders. Insurance was the main reason we didn't buy. $12,000- $18,000 a year. Probably part of the reason all cultures were nomadic in this area and north.
 
What I'm looking into is how the native americans dealt with them prior to european settlement. What I've seen so far is how they created boundaries like fire breaks. I know living on a river might help too for water access. I'm planning on building my home as an earthbag home, which is pretty much fire proof. But that's just the house. Won't help anything else.
 
Yes, with a thick coating of plaster or stucco on the exterior that would protect the bags. It's all the other things around that that are flammable. Window frames, doors, vents things like that. It's tough though because like you say everything else is going to be burned. There is something to be said about having a fifth wheel trailer or a class a motorhome set up as your house, but of course that is very limiting in space. On the other hand, you can take it wherever you want whenever you want for now or if you need to leave because of fire.
 
Halsey said:
Yes, with a thick coating of plaster or stucco on the exterior that would protect the bags. It's all the other things around that that are flammable. Window frames, doors, vents things like that. It's tough though because like you say everything else is going to be burned. There is something to be said about having a fifth wheel trailer or a class a motorhome set up as your house, but of course that is very limiting in space. On the other hand, you can take it wherever you want whenever you want for now or if you need to leave because of fire.
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you can't leave with that RV after the solar killshot. I'm talking about how to deal with wildfires post earth disaster. How will everyone , specially in these dryer more arid western states that are in the safe zones.
 
RockyMountainHeathen said:
you can't leave with that RV after the solar killshot. I'm talking about how to deal with wildfires post earth disaster. How will everyone , specially in these dryer more arid western states that are in the safe zones.
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True, the RV is for clown week and getting to where you need to be if you are not already there. That is my strategy and has been for five years living full-time in my RV traveling the country. Learned a lot about minimizing my needs and resources. The RV will be temporary shelter while organizing or being part of an established community. The SKS is only one of many possibilities for a collapse. And is probably the most extreme.
 
My dream property, where I plan to develop the Hobbit Shire village for my tribe, was in the first day's 22,000 acre run in 12 hours during the Aspen Acres Fire (So Colorado, about 45 min from the ranch). All 40 acres were vaporized in a matter of hours after it started. 100mph winds turned it into a blow torch and anything in its path didn't stand a chance. My neighbors had 40 minutes to evacuate before their home and property were taken by the monster fire. I had actually just closed on the purchase 7 days prior, and had just moved my motorhome onsite as my shelter and storage for supplies, preps, ammo and tools. I did not lose a home, unlike over 200 unlucky folks in the small community.
As a result of this devastation, and after I took the requisite time to mourn and begin to process the loss, with inspiration from my community (thank you, 0bservers), I am developing a response and restoration plan, with the intention to offer as a blueprint for other property owners that may face this kind of tragedy. I have found that (virtually) no one is considering this kind of calamity in their plan for what's coming. Many don't consider wildfire remediation in their homesteads and villages, how to make their homes and property fire resistant, and least of all, what to do if you are devastated by events like this. Let's face it, we don't know exactly what is going to happen, but we can just about guarantee much of our realm will be on fire at one point or another as our planet and sun continue their provacative dance toward the shift, and humanity's mismanagement of the earth go up in flames.
One remedy I had already been planning is to have earth-built homes, like adobe, hobbit holes, cob, earthbag, earthship, rammed earth, hempcrete, etc.
Anyway, my project is in the development phase as I continue writing the Trust, Constitution, Gov Docs, and Inquiry Process. I'm seeking like-minded folks for up to 4 resident households and up to 4 more part-time participants. If anyone wishes to learn more about my efforts or is local to the New Valley of the Sun and wants to participate, please inbox me.Beulah fire me.webp
 
jei0bserving_SoCo said:
My dream property, where I plan to develop the Hobbit Shire village for my tribe, was in the first day's 22,000 acre run in 12 hours during the Aspen Acres Fire (So Colorado, about 45 min from the ranch). All 40 acres were vaporized in a matter of hours after it started. 100mph winds turned it into a blow torch and anything in its path didn't stand a chance. My neighbors had 40 minutes to evacuate before their home and property were taken by the monster fire. I had actually just closed on the purchase 7 days prior, and had just moved my motorhome onsite as my shelter and storage for supplies, preps, ammo and tools. I did not lose a home, unlike over 200 unlucky folks in the small community.
As a result of this devastation, and after I took the requisite time to mourn and begin to process the loss, with inspiration from my community (thank you, 0bservers), I am developing a response and restoration plan, with the intention to offer as a blueprint for other property owners that may face this kind of tragedy. I have found that (virtually) no one is considering this kind of calamity in their plan for what's coming. Many don't consider wildfire remediation in their homesteads and villages, how to make their homes and property fire resistant, and least of all, what to do if you are devastated by events like this. Let's face it, we don't know exactly what is going to happen, but we can just about guarantee much of our realm will be on fire at one point or another as our planet and sun continue their provacative dance toward the shift, and humanity's mismanagement of the earth go up in flames.
One remedy I had already been planning is to have earth-built homes, like adobe, hobbit holes, cob, earthbag, earthship, rammed earth, hempcrete, etc.
Anyway, my project is in the development phase as I continue writing the Trust, Constitution, Gov Docs, and Inquiry Process. I'm seeking like-minded folks for up to 4 resident households and up to 4 more part-time participants. If anyone wishes to learn more about my efforts or is local to the New Valley of the Sun and wants to participate, please inbox me.View attachment 1062
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You were at Pam's house up in the Springs just recently correct? Telling us about this. I'm here in Canon City. What will you do with your land now? But yes, earthbag home is what we're planning on building our community home with.
 
I have been thinking of fire suppression actually. I'm lucky to have a retreat in an area with decent water resources but haven't decided how many people to have on-site until I estimate how much water is available to provide adequate fire suppression for everyone. The time to figure all this out is now. If buildings are close together, fire can spread between them. If buildings are far apart, you'll have to increase pressure to reach the furthest building from the water source. You'll likely need filled tanks of water reserved just for putting out potential fires. If you don't have a way to place the tanks on high ground for an assist from gravity, you'll need to generate the pressure through pumps or by installing pressurized tanks. Or maybe by combining both approaches.

This is so important. Thank you for broaching this subject.
 
jei0bserving_SoCo said:
My dream property, where I plan to develop the Hobbit Shire village for my tribe, was in the first day's 22,000 acre run in 12 hours during the Aspen Acres Fire (So Colorado, about 45 min from the ranch). All 40 acres were vaporized in a matter of hours after it started. 100mph winds turned it into a blow torch and anything in its path didn't stand a chance. My neighbors had 40 minutes to evacuate before their home and property were taken by the monster fire. I had actually just closed on the purchase 7 days prior, and had just moved my motorhome onsite as my shelter and storage for supplies, preps, ammo and tools. I did not lose a home, unlike over 200 unlucky folks in the small community.
As a result of this devastation, and after I took the requisite time to mourn and begin to process the loss, with inspiration from my community (thank you, 0bservers), I am developing a response and restoration plan, with the intention to offer as a blueprint for other property owners that may face this kind of tragedy. I have found that (virtually) no one is considering this kind of calamity in their plan for what's coming. Many don't consider wildfire remediation in their homesteads and villages, how to make their homes and property fire resistant, and least of all, what to do if you are devastated by events like this. Let's face it, we don't know exactly what is going to happen, but we can just about guarantee much of our realm will be on fire at one point or another as our planet and sun continue their provacative dance toward the shift, and humanity's mismanagement of the earth go up in flames.
One remedy I had already been planning is to have earth-built homes, like adobe, hobbit holes, cob, earthbag, earthship, rammed earth, hempcrete, etc.
Anyway, my project is in the development phase as I continue writing the Trust, Constitution, Gov Docs, and Inquiry Process. I'm seeking like-minded folks for up to 4 resident households and up to 4 more part-time participants. If anyone wishes to learn more about my efforts or is local to the New Valley of the Sun and wants to participate, please inbox me.
RockyMountainHeathen said:
You were at Pam's house up in the Springs just recently correct? Telling us about this. I'm here in Canon City. What will you do with your land now? But yes, earthbag home is what we're planning on building our community home with.
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One thought for the burned hillside: there may be a real opportunity to use some of the dead timber to help the land recover, instead of simply removing it or leaving all of it standing. The USDA Natural Resources Conservation Service and U.S. Forest Service have used and studied a technique called contour-felled log erosion barriers. Selected dead trees are cut and placed across the slope, roughly following the contour. When properly seated and anchored against the ground, the logs can slow runoff, catch sediment and organic matter, reduce erosion, retain moisture, and create protected areas where vegetation can begin establishing again.

I wouldn’t suggest cutting every standing tree. Some snags are valuable for wildlife and eventually become coarse woody debris naturally. A better approach might be to selectively fell some of the dead trees across the slope, leave some standing, and distribute branches and smaller woody material over exposed soil. That would create much more ground protection and surface roughness while still retaining some of the ecological value of the standing forest.

This may be especially useful on this property because the burned hillside drains toward the pond. Reducing erosion and keeping ash and sediment out of the water could be one of the most important priorities during the first few years of recovery. DH
 
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